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PostSubject: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Tue May 13, 2008 6:29 pm

Columbia Evangelical Seminary, what is everyones opinion of this school? Any graduates or professors from CES here?

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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Wed May 14, 2008 11:46 pm

I think thats where my father in law went an he sure seems to think highly of it. Dont know anyone else that went there tho
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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Thu May 15, 2008 9:40 pm

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I think thats where my father in law went an he sure seems to think highly of it. Dont know anyone else that went there tho

It seems like everyone that I have come across who has had any involvement with the school thinks highly of it. For me, its lack of accreditation is a draw back.

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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Thu May 15, 2008 10:34 pm

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rogermugs wrote:
I think thats where my father in law went an he sure seems to think highly of it. Dont know anyone else that went there tho

It seems like everyone that I have come across who has had any involvement with the school thinks highly of it. For me, its lack of accreditation is a draw back.

i dont know... i think a lack of accreditation is definitely a reason not to attend, but that said, the president of RTS where I go in orlando was telling me that its hard how they HAVE to cater to accreditation. that is, there are some wonderful professors out there, or other things they could teach which might actually be more profitable for the student, but the school HAS to bend and fold to keep its accreditation or its nothing...

so maybe by not being bound by the accreditation process they're actually able to offer some things that are more valuable.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Thu May 15, 2008 11:40 pm

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Martin wrote:
rogermugs wrote:
I think thats where my father in law went an he sure seems to think highly of it. Dont know anyone else that went there tho

It seems like everyone that I have come across who has had any involvement with the school thinks highly of it. For me, its lack of accreditation is a draw back.

i dont know... i think a lack of accreditation is definitely a reason not to attend, but that said, the president of RTS where I go in orlando was telling me that its hard how they HAVE to cater to accreditation. that is, there are some wonderful professors out there, or other things they could teach which might actually be more profitable for the student, but the school HAS to bend and fold to keep its accreditation or its nothing...

so maybe by not being bound by the accreditation process they're actually able to offer some things that are more valuable.

Martin and Roger, I've personally spoken to the president of CES, and he assured me that because of their style they probably would not be accredited.

This, however, is not to take away from the quality of work a person does at CES. I think on their site they have a list of their grads who have gone on to accredited schools.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Mon May 19, 2008 8:50 pm

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i dont know... i think a lack of accreditation is definitely a reason not to attend, but that said, the president of RTS where I go in orlando was telling me that its hard how they HAVE to cater to accreditation. that is, there are some wonderful professors out there, or other things they could teach which might actually be more profitable for the student, but the school HAS to bend and fold to keep its accreditation or its nothing...

so maybe by not being bound by the accreditation process they're actually able to offer some things that are more valuable.

==The lack of accreditation is an issue, no doubt about it. It is an issue that anyone who enrolls at CES needs to be informed on. CES's lack of accreditation will come back to haunt those who wish to enter academic fields. However for someone in the ministry, a school like CES might just be what they are looking for. Therefore I would say it just depends upon why a person wants to attend CES. Let's be clear, however, CES is far different and above schools like Trinity College and Seminary and Covington Seminary. Andersonville Seminary lacks accreditation, and I have blasted away at them in the past, however some of their new programs show promise. That said, however, I would still advise people to shy away from Andersonville.

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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Mon May 19, 2008 11:09 pm

i definitely can see value in a school that offers something better for a person in ministry than a program thats accredited but not as focused...
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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Tue May 20, 2008 12:47 am

Martin wrote:
rogermugs wrote:
i dont know... i think a lack of accreditation is definitely a reason not to attend, but that said, the president of RTS where I go in orlando was telling me that its hard how they HAVE to cater to accreditation. that is, there are some wonderful professors out there, or other things they could teach which might actually be more profitable for the student, but the school HAS to bend and fold to keep its accreditation or its nothing...

so maybe by not being bound by the accreditation process they're actually able to offer some things that are more valuable.

==The lack of accreditation is an issue, no doubt about it. It is an issue that anyone who enrolls at CES needs to be informed on. CES's lack of accreditation will come back to haunt those who wish to enter academic fields. However for someone in the ministry, a school like CES might just be what they are looking for. Therefore I would say it just depends upon why a person wants to attend CES. Let's be clear, however, CES is far different and above schools like Trinity College and Seminary and Covington Seminary. Andersonville Seminary lacks accreditation, and I have blasted away at them in the past, however some of their new programs show promise. That said, however, I would still advise people to shy away from Andersonville.

Martin, because of the profs at CES and the mentoring program, I'll choose it over all the other schools mentioned above.

I never thought well of Andersonville.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Tue May 20, 2008 7:56 pm

i've never heard of andersonville but ya'll sparked my interest... especially in this page:

Choosing a seminary

.. . . . .After eliminating schools with poor doctrinal stances and poor academic legitimacy, you will find that the selection of seminary has been greatly simplified. . . . .

anyhoo... you two might get a kick out of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Tue May 20, 2008 9:08 pm

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i've never heard of andersonville but ya'll sparked my interest... especially in this page:

Choosing a seminary

.. . . . .After eliminating schools with poor doctrinal stances and poor academic legitimacy, you will find that the selection of seminary has been greatly simplified. . . . .

anyhoo... you two might get a kick out of it.

Roger, as Martin mentioned above, Andersonville might work for some people, but if you're looking to go into academia, or you're looking for serious academic rigor, Andersonville is not the school to go.
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PostSubject: Re: Columbia Evangelical Seminary   Tue May 20, 2008 10:30 pm

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I never thought well of Andersonville.

==I really look forward to the day when Andersonville Seminary gets on the right track. I don't know that such a day will ever come, but some of their new programs give me hope. They are starting what appears to be a serious focus on the languages and more intensive work. It is certainly a step in the right direction. They need to get accredited, at least through TRACS, and then go on to the next step. I think they can do it. The only question is, will they do it? I don't know the answer to that. Question

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PostSubject: CES and Dr. Walston    Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:21 pm

I earned my D.Min from CES. Rick was my mentor. I transferred from another seminary and he helped me bring my writing skills up to the doctoral level. He is a fine mentor and the school standards are very high. Because the school does not have a campus, accreditation will probably never be achieved unless the accreditation agencies more into the 21st century and realize that a campus is no longer necessary. You can learn about what I do in ministry at www.thebereanbibleministry.org.
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