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Nathan
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 |  Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama  Sun May 11, 2008 11:07 pm | |
| | Geoff wrote: | | Although, it certainly seems like a fiasco over here... two people from the same party fighting each other for the one job, publicly.. dirty tricks, name calling, insults, etc.. ick. |
That seems like pretty standard fare for politics.
Yeah I suppose I am participating in theology somehow, but I don't perceive myself with that label. Might I add that it is hard to display emotion with text. These smilies just don't capture my winking nature.
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Nick Norelli
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| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 12, 2008 12:41 am | |
| | rogermugs wrote: | i want him to be strong and confident about the U.S. as a nation, to present us as a strong and powerful nation with responsibilities we aren't afraid to keep... but we'll see.
It would be nice for the world to not see us through the eyes of a bumbling president with a funky accent for a while. (as much as I have frankly liked bush) |
Obama is a politician, which makes him a liar. Whatever he presents himself to be, he isn't. Whatever responsibilities he might give the appearance of us as a nation keeping, we won't. And quite frankly, I've liked Bush as well. I really, I mean really, think that people are so enamored by Obama because they see him as the anti-Bush, not because he's the most qualified for the job.
My vote's for McCain. Go Beruplicans! |
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Geoff
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Age : 41
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Location : Auckland, New Zealand
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 12, 2008 4:33 am | |
| | Nathan wrote: | | Geoff wrote: | | Although, it certainly seems like a fiasco over here... two people from the same party fighting each other for the one job, publicly.. dirty tricks, name calling, insults, etc.. ick. |
That seems like pretty standard fare for politics.
Yeah I suppose I am participating in theology somehow, but I don't perceive myself with that label. Might I add that it is hard to display emotion with text. These smilies just don't capture my winking nature.
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rogermugs
theologer
Joined : 09 May 2008
Posts : 355
Location : east yo
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 12, 2008 11:10 am | |
| | Geoff wrote: | | Although, it certainly seems like a fiasco over here... two people from the same party fighting each other for the one job, publicly.. dirty tricks, name calling, insults, etc.. ick. |
geoff we take serious pride in the fact that there is competition for that position (albiet pretty lame competition this time around...) but still. we love our democracy
how do ya'll do it down under (and over a bit)? throw a rock and see who you hit? |
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Geoff
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Age : 41
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Location : Auckland, New Zealand
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 12, 2008 7:58 pm | |
| | rogermugs wrote: | we love our democracy
how do ya'll do it down under (and over a bit)? throw a rock and see who you hit? |
No, we have 2 main parties, and we vote for the party (not person). We have a proportional representation model which creates (supposedly) a more democratic democracy.. Although you wouldnt know that with the current bunch of clowns in power. |
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tc
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Posts : 43
Location : CA
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Thu May 15, 2008 6:42 pm | |
| | Do I really have to chime in here? |
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Geoff
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Age : 41
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Posts : 29
Location : Auckland, New Zealand
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Thu May 15, 2008 6:57 pm | |
| | tc wrote: | | Do I really have to chime in here? |
That would entirely depend on what you are chiming...  |
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rogermugs
theologer
Joined : 09 May 2008
Posts : 355
Location : east yo
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Thu May 15, 2008 9:42 pm | |
| | Geoff wrote: | | tc wrote: | | Do I really have to chime in here? |
That would entirely depend on what you are chiming... |
and what specifically that chime is made of (eg. bamboo... metal?) |
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design219
Monk
Age : 47
Joined : 18 May 2008
Posts : 78
Location : In the back of the closet in a small green box.
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 19, 2008 9:09 am | |
| | Nick Norelli wrote: | | Obama is a politician, which makes him a liar. |
Maybe I'm naive, but I think this kind of generalization is just lame. There are people who see meaning in life, a call and a desire to serve others. Politics is a system that benefits from people doing the right thing, and all who enter that system are not doing it for selfish reasons.
Also, I reject the implication in the title of this thread. Why cannot a woman be a good, strong leader of our nation? There have historically been many great women leaders, from the ancient times to modern. |
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rogermugs
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design219
Monk
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Location : In the back of the closet in a small green box.
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 19, 2008 12:07 pm | |
| | rogermugs wrote: | | they WILL NOT respect a woman leader |
You may have a point, but we should not elect our leadership based on what other countries think. Our current leader has lost a lot of respect but we carry on.
As far as respect goes, our national leader plays a very minor role. Our policy (and military might) are what matters. |
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rogermugs
theologer
Joined : 09 May 2008
Posts : 355
Location : east yo
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 19, 2008 12:45 pm | |
| afraid i disagree with you again.
as far as power our leader plays a very minor role
but we dont get respect based on our senate or our house we get it based on who is sitting in the oval office and if they bumble over words like stratergery
i think we should elect who is the best for us, not who is the best for other nations. but i think right now, who is the best in the eyes of the world, may be the best move for us.
(also... cheaper gas would be nice, but i ride a bike so it doesn't affect me much)
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design219
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| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Mon May 19, 2008 9:34 pm | |
| | rogermugs wrote: | | also... cheaper gas would be nice |
I'm holding out for free Pop Tarts. |
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rogermugs
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design219
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Location : In the back of the closet in a small green box.
| | Subject: Re: the necessity of a strong male leader for the nation and why i might vote obama Tue May 20, 2008 6:38 am | |
| I will concede this discussion, you are right.
Toaster Strudels are far better than Pop Tarts. |
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